Bloch-Elkouby Lab for Suicide Prevention and Psychotherapy Research

Jimmy's Poster

Acceptability and Feasibility of Virtual Patient with and without ChatGPT

Jimmy Pengyu Chen¹˒², Anna Stefania Prekas¹˒²˒³, Hanjiang Xu¹˒²˒⁴, Yongxue Wei¹˒²˒⁴, Lilian Guo¹˒²˒⁴, Madison Wakely¹˒², & Sarah Bloch-Elkouby¹˒²

¹ Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai
² Ferkauf Graduate School of Psychology, Yeshiva University
³ Adelphi University
⁴ Teachers College, Columbia University

Background

The evolution of chatbot engines has created an unprecedented opportunity to develop virtual patients (VPs) capable of engaging in free-flowing conversations with clinicians in training while maintaining fidelity to their original clinical design. Over the past 60 years, chatbot systems have progressed from rule-based pattern-matching models to intent-recognition and dialogue-management frameworks, and more recently to large-scale neural networks powering conversational AI (He et al., 2025). However, improvements in chatbot capability do not necessarily translate into greater acceptability, satisfaction, intention to use, or training effectiveness.

Several studies have established the feasibility of a VP-based clinical training tool, even with limited conversational capabilities. Dupuy et al. (2020) presented a VP with a profile of major depressive disorder to medical students, who conducted a psychiatric interview by selecting one of the two pre-written sentences. Medical students reacted with a welcoming attitude and enjoyed the interaction. Bloch-Elkouby et al. (2025) tested the effectiveness of an emotional awareness training that featured virtual patient interactions powered by Google DialogFlow (DF; Google Cloud, n.d.), an intent-matching system, and established that clinicians who received the training built stronger bonds and achieved greater reduction of suicide-related symptoms with their clients.

As LLM capabilities increased substantially over the past few years, the excitement in technological advancement can lure researchers to attempt to implement VPs based on LLMs. However, there are a few cautions against using them: as LLMs are difficult to control, they might create unintended confounds to the research, which renders a VP based on an intent-matching system like DF much more attractive.

LLM and DialogFlow: Pros and Cons

System Pros Cons
LLM Free, natural conversation; less development time if the model performs well Hallucination; low fidelity creates confounds in research; difficult to improve models; paraphrasing rather than reproducing
DialogFlow (DF) Pre-scripted responses, output based on matches; high fidelity, suitable for research Prone to mismatch and no match; time-consuming to develop

Our lab initially elected to develop a DF-powered VP and sacrificed the natural conversation flow for high fidelity. Nevertheless, the DF-powered VP had substantial shortcomings. In Bloch-Elkouby et al. (2026), observer-based ratings identified that roughly 15% of interactions in an average interview transcript between the clinician and the VP (one clinician question plus one VP response) were disrupted by failures to match the clinician input with a pre-existing intent to produce an appropriate output, and that roughly 11% of interactions were disrupted by inappropriate responses, i.e., intent mismatches.

To address the technical disruptions and strike a balance between fidelity and conversational flow, our lab subsequently connected the DF system to ChatGPT, which is designed to produce responses only when there is an intent no-match or mismatch.

The Current Study

The current study tested the two generations of VPs on clinical or counseling psychology doctoral students (DF only: n = 69; DF + ChatGPT: n = 32) and compared the acceptability and feasibility of each VP. Students were asked to conduct a diagnostic interview with the VP over Zoom and completed the post-VP assessments.

Hypothesis: The DF + ChatGPT VP will produce substantially less observer-based and subjective disruptions and be perceived as more enjoyable and valuable.

Method

Acceptability

Feasibility

Results

Outcome GPT + DF Mean DF Mean t df p
Total interactions 102.13 102.49 −.037 99 .971
Objective inappropriate 5.3750 11.7681 −4.130 99 <.001
Objective inappropriate (%) 4.6002 11.1021 −6.732 99 <.001
No-match 6.38 15.30 −3.853 99 <.001
No-match (%) 7.9685 14.5033 −3.090 99 .003
Subjective inappropriate 8.48 11.40 −2.346 91 .021
Language issue disruptiveness 3.53 4.14 −2.343 99 .021
Technical issue disruptiveness 2.17 1.94 .523 91 .602
Enjoyment 2.81 2.46 1.673 99 .097
Training tool value 2.84 2.67 .810 99 .420

Discussion and Additional Insights

As expected, integrating ChatGPT into the DF-based VP was associated with improved conversational feasibility. Compared with DF alone, the hybrid system produced fewer objectively coded inappropriate and no-match responses, fewer participant-reported inappropriate responses, and less disruptive language issues, despite similar total interaction counts.

However, the groups did not differ significantly in perceived technical disruption, enjoyment, or training value. Thus, the reduction in conversational disruptions was not accompanied by clear evidence of improved acceptability.

This discrepancy between acceptability and feasibility might be explained by the threshold of the number of disruptions to create a good experience. As indicated in the results, technical disruptions still account for roughly 12–13% of all interactions. The statistical decrease in disruptions might not have resulted in the improvement of experience.

Additionally, researchers should use high caution when developing a conversational agent with involvement of any commercial LLM, which is known to update on the backend or limit the intellectual level of the same model after substantial usage from the same account without informing the users. The DF + GPT participants experienced significant fluctuations in the number of inappropriate responses and no matches, clearly indicated by the time they completed the interview, while the study could not identify any way to investigate why. Furthermore, as commercial models update, the original prompt and setup might no longer work well. Constant updates and examinations are required for these models to ensure integrity.

References

Bloch-Elkouby, S., Johnson, B., Chen, J. P., El Hayek, R., Jones, A., Eid, T., de Siqueira, A. G., Apter, Y., Yao, H., Lok, B., Foster, A., & Galynker, I. (2025). Can training clinicians in emotional awareness using virtual patient interactions improve the therapeutic alliance with psychiatric outpatients and reduce suicidal outcomes? Psychiatry Research, 356, 116846. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.psychres.2025.116846

Bloch-Elkouby, S., Johnson, B. N., Chen, J. P., Shi, R., Goncearenco, I., Khaikin, S., Wei, Y., Xu, H., Gomes De Siqueira, A., Yao, H., Lok, B., Cohen, L., Apter-Levi, Y., Shimon Raz, O., Williams, M. T., & Galynker, I. (2026). Race, bias, and suicide risk assessment: An experimental study using a male adolescent virtual patient [Manuscript submitted for publication]. Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai.

Dupuy, L., Micoulaud-Franchi, J.-A., Cassoudesalle, H., Ballot, O., Dehail, P., Aouizerate, B., Cuny, E., De Sevin, E., & Philip, P. (2020). Evaluation of a virtual agent to train medical students conducting psychiatric interviews for diagnosing major depressive disorders. Journal of Affective Disorders, 263, 1–8. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jad.2019.11.117

Google Cloud. (n.d.). Dialogflow ES documentation. Retrieved October 13, 2026, from https://docs.cloud.google.com/dialogflow/es/docs

He, R., Cao, J., & Tan, T. (2025). Generative artificial intelligence: A historical perspective. National Science Review, 12(5), Article nwaf050. https://doi.org/10.1093/nsr/nwaf050